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September 05, 2008

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EM

Perhaps another location would better suit you now. This is a family community - every time we go and take our toddler, there are tons of families there as well which we very much like.

Teach Your Children

How sad the art of teaching children proper manners and courtesy has been lost. This is a community of families, singles, seniors and empty nesters, not just families. Those with young children should realize that not everyone enjoys the antics and noise level of their offspring in a public setting. It is the parents' responsibility to teach the children proper behavior in public and just telling those who complain to go elsewhere is not a valid answer.

EM

CLEARLY another location with less children would better suit those who are looking for a "romantic" night out. Whether well behaved or not, there are alot of toddlers in LH. There are also alot of Mi Cocinas in the area.

Teach Your Children

CLEARY those with rowdy undisciplined ill-mannered children should try CiCis or some other child-friendly restaurant. Leave the bar at Mi Cocina to other productive members of our community seeking a nice evening out without the distractions created by lazy parents.

rarepair

Complete agreement with Teach Your Children. My daughter has traveled with me since she was a baby - to restaurants, stores, sports venues, hotels, on flights, - everywhere. I've taught her courtesy in public places, just like my mother taught me. It's not a hardship at all. Courteous children grow up to be courteous adults. This doesn't mean she doesn't have fun. She - WE - have a blast. But she respects the rights of those around her, she's polite, and she behaves appropriately in the public arena. She's only ten and she has a problem with misbehaving toddlers (or any aged kids) we encounter in public places!

Here's an example for you EM: You're at a baseball game with your family. You've got great seats that you've paid a lot of money for. You're all having a great time. Here comes the obnoxious adult boor and he's sitting two seats over and he's loud and throws things and complains and you can't hear the announcer and you can't see the field and your kids have had their feet stepped on three times and you've got sticky Dr. Pepper in your hair. Chances are pretty good that when his parents took him to Mi Cocina, they didn't teach him nor insist on polite behavior.

Chuck E. Cheeses serves its purpose well. It's a place where parents, if they choose not to, don't have to monitor their childrens public behavior to such a great extent. I would suggest to you EM that it is the location that would better suit you and your family.

AF

I was at MiCo's last night with my six month old. She was very cute and quiet so she didn't bother you I hope but it was kid night at the restaurant. I think the restaurant was trying to seat most of them in the back room where we were sitting but that noise dosen't bother me any more. Last night seemed more rowdy then most.

meredith

I'm in complete agreement with rarepair and TYC. I've never really understood why parties without children are expected to find other restaurants to go to. If a couple goes to Chuck E Cheese for a romantic dinner and is upset at the noise level, then yes - they are clearly in the wrong. But is expecting/desiring a romantic dinner at Mi Cocina really a crime?

Wouldn't it be great if instead of a smoking and nonsmoking room, restaurants were forced to have children and non-children rooms?

John Mina

Its a good thing we are getting the old folks home at Church/Skillman. For an extra few bucks in rent each month, I'm sure the people there will be happy to add candlesticks to further enhance the ambiance in the dining room.

wanting the best for LH

Oh wow....I am so glad to see someone finally touch this subject. I too love and adore all our new young families in LH. However, the run away kids do bother us and we have just stopped using Picasso's because of the noise level and the uncontrolled kids on the patio.

I would like to see the parents control the kids, but not the way the man that sat across from us at Mi Cocina the other night with his wife and three young sons . As I watched he reached over and pinched the middle one very hard on the leg....I thought the kid was acting fine...and he noticed me watching and he turned to the little one, whispered something in his ear and pinched this one so hard the little guy laid his head on the table and cried. The mother did nothing. We wondered for several days if this guy treats his kids like this in public, what must he do at home ?

Anyone have any ideas of what you do in situations like this ? This is certainly not the alternative I want to rowdy kids.

mom of young children

"Wouldn't it be great if instead of a smoking and nonsmoking room, restaurants were forced to have children and non-children rooms?"

I'll go you one further.. how about putting all the elderly people in their own room? How about all the people who don't look exactly like you? How about dividing us up by median income? Seems we are entering some dangerous territory here, because we've lost our ability to speak in common sense terms.

The world is, quite simply, a better place because there are children in it. Period. And the reason the above comment bothers me so, is that I've heard it before and it now seems to be perfectly acceptable to be anti-child in just about any venue or establishment these days. What a sad day for all of us.

Let me be clear... I am not okay with children running free in a crowded restaurant for many reasons - their safety, others comfort and it not being an appropriate place for play. I am a parent who has walked out of restaurants with my then 2 or 3 year-old because they were behaving inappropriately. Or took my children outside to walk around while my husband ate dinner, we then "switched places" so I could enjoy the company of our larger group and the kids could be outside of harms way and not bother other diners.

My children are learning how to behave in the world, and I am accountable for that behavior when they are in my care, as well as when they are older and outside my care. I cannot count the number of compliments we have received in many adult restaurants over the years for our children's behavior. I politely respond each time, "we are doing our best to teach them - and some days we get lucky!"

However, if some had their way, we wouldn't even be allowed the opportunity to teach them manners or how to behave in nice settings. Not every outing goes perfectly. But, dining out shouldn't come at the expense of my children's age-appropriate attention spans, nor the expense of other child-free patrons. Common sense, right?

My hope is that we can try to take the extremes out of our vocabulary. Children with good manners and attentive parents should be welcome anywhere, just as adults with good manners - ones who don't consider pinching an appropriate etiquette lesson - should have their choices, too.

And as for advice on the pinching dad, all I can say is that if you know them personally you can approach the situation and comment discreetly. But unfortunately if you don't, it often makes the situation worse for the children once the family is outside your range of vision.

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